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> well, look, george, i think governor romney had a masterful theatrical performance just this past week, but the underpinnings and foundation of that performance were fundamentally dishonest. look, he walked away from the central tenet of his economic theory by saying he had no idea what the president was talking about. ten minutes after the debate even his own staff is walking back his answers on health care and pre-existing conditions, so, look, i don't want to take anything away from what i think again was a masterful, masterful performance by governor romney but i don't think governor romney's positions have changed and fundamentally i don't think the campaign changed. >> what happened to the president wednesday night? you've seen all the reviews, and i'm sure the president has seen the reviews, as well. let's look at that "new yorker" cover there, it shows the empty podium next to mitt romney. the basic line is the president didn't show up on wednesday night. i just want to know when did he know he was beat? >> well, look, george, i think the president understood that he hadn't per
> well, look, george, i think governor romney had a masterful theatrical performance just this past week, but the underpinnings and foundation of that performance were fundamentally dishonest. look, he walked away from the central tenet of his economic theory by saying he had no idea what the president was talking about. ten minutes after the debate even his own staff is walking back his answers on health care and pre-existing conditions, so, look, i don't want to take anything away from...
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on stage next week? >> when you're not that bright, you can't get better prepared. >> that the romney campaign's post-debate message from their national campaign co-chair. the president is lazy and not that bright. here was the obama campaign's post-debate message. >> the mitt romney we all know invested in companies that were called pioneers of outsourcing jobs to other countries. but the guy on stage last night, he said he'd never heard of tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. never heard of them. and he said, if that's true, he must need a new accountant. so now we know for sure that wasn't the real mitt romney because the real mitt romney is doing just fine with the accountant that he already has. whoever it was that was on stage last night doesn't want to be held accountable for what the real mitt romney's been saying for the last year. >> president obama cannot rewind and unleash that last night at the podium? but the way he and his opponent's campaign have adjusted their tactics in mov
on stage next week? >> when you're not that bright, you can't get better prepared. >> that the romney campaign's post-debate message from their national campaign co-chair. the president is lazy and not that bright. here was the obama campaign's post-debate message. >> the mitt romney we all know invested in companies that were called pioneers of outsourcing jobs to other countries. but the guy on stage last night, he said he'd never heard of tax breaks for companies that ship...
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and i think the reason obama has never been able to pull away, even when romney had two pretty bad weeks, is that in the end there's this rubber band effect that they go, well, i'd almost like to give him another shot, but this is really frightening and really painful. >> well, nobody is ever going to pull away in this political system. so that's never going to happen. we always -- >> no, i disagree. i think he could have. if there was a moment to pull away, and the only thing that snaps it back is this feeling of things aren't -- >> the race was always going to be close. i don't think anybody would deny that. but let's be clear. let's look at where we've come. 800,000 jobs were being lost the first time the president read the unemployment report. i know these are just statistics for people in washington. that's real lives in america. 31 consecutive months of positive job growth. are we growing as fast as we'd like to? no. but it takes a long time to dig out of this avalanche of tremendously bad decisions that preceded the obama presidency. and let's understand this. one thing they saw i
and i think the reason obama has never been able to pull away, even when romney had two pretty bad weeks, is that in the end there's this rubber band effect that they go, well, i'd almost like to give him another shot, but this is really frightening and really painful. >> well, nobody is ever going to pull away in this political system. so that's never going to happen. we always -- >> no, i disagree. i think he could have. if there was a moment to pull away, and the only thing that...
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joining it's retrievable by obama. i don't think you get a second chance to make a first impression. and i think that romney really scored. i thought when he explained to people that tax cut on the rich would not be on the rich, it was a tax increase on the rich, it was a tax increase on small business employers and they employ 50% of the american workforce. by raising their taxes, you are undermining their ability to create be jos. that was brilliant. i thought that really, he took away, all kinds of arguments from obama. while obama can wait until the performance wears off and people forget how stumbling and hesitant and detached he was, what will remain is the ground that he ceded to romney. >> greta: i thought it was significant that 67 million people watched this, the largest number since i think 1992. chfts a measurement to -- which was a measurement to me of the enthusiasm for the election. i don't know which way it will fall. but it showed interest by the country. >> i think the same reason that they watched it
joining it's retrievable by obama. i don't think you get a second chance to make a first impression. and i think that romney really scored. i thought when he explained to people that tax cut on the rich would not be on the rich, it was a tax increase on the rich, it was a tax increase on small business employers and they employ 50% of the american workforce. by raising their taxes, you are undermining their ability to create be jos. that was brilliant. i thought that really, he took away, all...
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does barack obama want to be president? he looked like he'd rather have his toenails removed with a dull, rusty blade than on that stage that last night? >> does he wants to support education? he says he won't cut education. that is different from congressman paul ryan's budget, who is the guy that you conservatives champion as the truth teller for your party. the list goes on and on for taxes as well. so the guy you're saying who showed up yesterday, if the scorecard is correct, is as far from a conservative, a re masum you can put on the table. if you were honest, that's not the guy you would vote for, maybe someone in the middle, a moderate republican. but you a staunch conservative would not vote for mitt romney, the one na showed up last night? >> well, one of the things -- your question, of course, answers why i've done what i did the last five years trying to stop him from being the nominee, but he did effective things defending conservative values last night. if you look at one focus groups one of the networks did o
does barack obama want to be president? he looked like he'd rather have his toenails removed with a dull, rusty blade than on that stage that last night? >> does he wants to support education? he says he won't cut education. that is different from congressman paul ryan's budget, who is the guy that you conservatives champion as the truth teller for your party. the list goes on and on for taxes as well. so the guy you're saying who showed up yesterday, if the scorecard is correct, is as...
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two weeks before obama's speech. adding to that, senator obama voted against the bill that included the provision for new orleans. part of the bill that increased iraq war funding. democrats say it's ancient history five years ago. political analysts expect more tape from both sides on 33 days. positive day on wall street. the dow gained 12. s&p 500 finished ahead five. nasdaq was up 15. the struggling economy is blamed for another year of declining birthrate. cdc says there were fewer than 4 million in 2011 down 1% from the previous year. the lowest number since 1999. hispanic births were down 6%. 2% down for african-americans. followup on last night's story about the obama administration urging defense contractors not to issue legally required layoff notices despite impending cuts due to the budget impasse. known as the sequestration. mike emanuel has the update. >> by law they're required to issue layoff notices to employees they may need to cut if the half trillion in automatic cuts known as sequestration take ef
two weeks before obama's speech. adding to that, senator obama voted against the bill that included the provision for new orleans. part of the bill that increased iraq war funding. democrats say it's ancient history five years ago. political analysts expect more tape from both sides on 33 days. positive day on wall street. the dow gained 12. s&p 500 finished ahead five. nasdaq was up 15. the struggling economy is blamed for another year of declining birthrate. cdc says there were fewer than...
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even though both my wife and i have said publicly over the last couple weeks if romney arrives as tough, as aggressive with the clarity and the assertiveness he used in florida, we thought he would do very, very well but i got the sense that obama came in in a very relaxed way, without adequate preparation, and frankly was stunned at the intensity and at the facts. one of the challenges the obama team has with their whole new mantra which is if only mitt romney had been a nice person it would have been a better debate, romney just piled on with fact after fact after fact -- i'm talking about facts like 23 million unemployed is a pretty specific fact. >> what about this fact. what about this fact, mr. speaker. romney claimed that president obama's cutting $716 billion from medicare that will affect current people in the program. was that a fact? >> that certainly is what the congressional budget office says. the numbers for that have been pretty well vetted over and over again. >> our own cnn fact checker says it's false. president obama's affordable care act allows for a reduction in th
even though both my wife and i have said publicly over the last couple weeks if romney arrives as tough, as aggressive with the clarity and the assertiveness he used in florida, we thought he would do very, very well but i got the sense that obama came in in a very relaxed way, without adequate preparation, and frankly was stunned at the intensity and at the facts. one of the challenges the obama team has with their whole new mantra which is if only mitt romney had been a nice person it would...
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even though both my wife and i have said publicly over the last couple weeks if romney arrives as tough, as aggressive with the clarity and the assertiveness he used in florida, we thought he would do very, very well but i got the sense that obama came in in a very relaxed way, without adequate preparation, and frankly was stunned at the intensity and at the facts. one of the challenges the obama team has with their whole new mantra which is if only mitt romney had been a nice person it would have been a better debate, romney just piled on with fact after fact after fact -- i'm talking about facts like 23 million unemployed is a pretty specific fact. >> yeah. i can't answer why he didn't do that. but i can tell you this. i do know that he was waiting to hear from mitt romney about how he was going to pay for his $5 trillion tax cut and he didn't get an answer. i would love to know from newt gingrich, who i know has been working with and is a surrogate for the romney campaign. can he name two, at least two of the deductions that will be cut to be able to pay for the $5 trillion tax cut t
even though both my wife and i have said publicly over the last couple weeks if romney arrives as tough, as aggressive with the clarity and the assertiveness he used in florida, we thought he would do very, very well but i got the sense that obama came in in a very relaxed way, without adequate preparation, and frankly was stunned at the intensity and at the facts. one of the challenges the obama team has with their whole new mantra which is if only mitt romney had been a nice person it would...
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hi, this is barack obama. how are you? >>> final for the "your business" entrepreneur evident week. andrew rosenwalk is the fourth generation owner of rosenwalk tanks. they are shaped by hand with half century old tools. he said you don't throw out what works. you just build upon it. for more watch "your business" this sunday morning at 7:30 on msnbc. or get the yard ready for cool an energy weather?n to size? the answer? a lot less. the great american fix-up is going on now... ...with new projects every week and big savings every day. so you can do what needs to be done. today. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. right now, owens corning ecotouch attik insulation is only $11.87 a roll. >>> a pennsylvania judge has dealt a serious blow to republicans who hoped that a tough voter i.d. law might help them capture the state's 20 electoral college votes. the judge's ruling blocks the law from going into effect this year, but for now does not strike down the law itself. nbc news's justice correspondent pete williams joins us now. pete, good afternoon. what did th
hi, this is barack obama. how are you? >>> final for the "your business" entrepreneur evident week. andrew rosenwalk is the fourth generation owner of rosenwalk tanks. they are shaped by hand with half century old tools. he said you don't throw out what works. you just build upon it. for more watch "your business" this sunday morning at 7:30 on msnbc. or get the yard ready for cool an energy weather?n to size? the answer? a lot less. the great american fix-up is...
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>> you're actually seeing them literallies and president obama's rallies he had been going to in ohio last week, were all about getting the early vote out, making sure people were registered and saying hey, remember, folks, october 2nd, start voting early. you're seeing that more active than from the romney campaign. paul ryan was out in iowa, iowa is a state having some early voting, according to our inbed out there, paul ryan wasn't making the same exhortations to the republicans in his audience to get them to go vote early. you're seeing two strategies by the obama and romney campaigns. >> what else do we learn from the nbc news/"wall street journal" poll in terms of their attitudes towards the debate? >> just on the debate front, as i was kind of saying, bill mcinturf had a conference call with us and saying -- i can't give away the data but unless there is something extraordinary -- >> point out bill is the republican half of the peter hart/mcinturf team, they work for nbc news. >> he was looking at the data and remarkable how stable it is. unless there's something really ka the
>> you're actually seeing them literallies and president obama's rallies he had been going to in ohio last week, were all about getting the early vote out, making sure people were registered and saying hey, remember, folks, october 2nd, start voting early. you're seeing that more active than from the romney campaign. paul ryan was out in iowa, iowa is a state having some early voting, according to our inbed out there, paul ryan wasn't making the same exhortations to the republicans in his...
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heually gave mt romney aop to compassia individuals on the campaign trail suffering because of the obama economy as he said that would do better under his tax plans and by not lit galling he will have a less of a chance of making that point because mitt romney seemed pretty compassionate last night. >> okay. so malpractice you see. john avlon had a jaw dropping moment. let's watch the moment and then we'ltalk. >> well, i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i don't have a tax cut of the scale you're talking about. my view is that we ought to provide tax relief to people in the middle class but i won't redees the share of taxes paid by high income people. >> jaw dropping because -- >> i mean, just surreal. the size of the etch-a-sketch. the audacity on taxes. which was unbelievable. i mean, almost as if mitt romney's not listening to the campaign rhetoric for five years. the core difnc candidates is about the tax cuts for the upper income bracket and 20% tax cut across the board. mitt romney never specified the deductions that he discusses and doesn't give specifications on, to say i don't h
heually gave mt romney aop to compassia individuals on the campaign trail suffering because of the obama economy as he said that would do better under his tax plans and by not lit galling he will have a less of a chance of making that point because mitt romney seemed pretty compassionate last night. >> okay. so malpractice you see. john avlon had a jaw dropping moment. let's watch the moment and then we'ltalk. >> well, i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i don't have a tax cut of...
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obama at 45%. that's a significant shift from only a few weeks ago. same poll, likely voters at obama 51%. romney, 43%. that's a dramatic shift indeed. let's get the reaction, jim acosta is traveling with the republican presidential nominee. what are they saying, jim? >> reporter: wolf, i can tell you right now that mitt romney is standing behind me addressing an understandably small crowd of supporters here at newport news, virginia, it is raining buckets here. but that's not dampening the enthusiasm of the romney campaign. they feel very good about this poll that just came out from the pew research center, showing a four-point lead among likely voters for mitt romney over the president. that is a kind of poll that they have not seen in some time. so they're very happy about that. i got some instant response from a senior romney official who told me over an e-mail a few moments ago that they are encouraged by the enthusiasm that they're seeing from supporters who they call energized. we have been seeing that over the last several days at various camp
obama at 45%. that's a significant shift from only a few weeks ago. same poll, likely voters at obama 51%. romney, 43%. that's a dramatic shift indeed. let's get the reaction, jim acosta is traveling with the republican presidential nominee. what are they saying, jim? >> reporter: wolf, i can tell you right now that mitt romney is standing behind me addressing an understandably small crowd of supporters here at newport news, virginia, it is raining buckets here. but that's not dampening...
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i was surprised that obama didn't bring it up. biggest surprise for me of the night is that it didn't come up. it's been the dominant thing in our debate for the last few weeks. >> david axelrod is coming up. jon meacham, you look over the past 25 years, 30 years or so, and you look at the republican presidential candidates who all have strengths, they've all been remarkable men in their own way, but not good debaters. you know, republicans have held our breath through the john mccain debates and the george w. bush debates and the bob dole debates and the george h.w. debates. again, a great man, a horrific debater. you know, the famous jon lovitz line, "i can't believe i'm losing to this guy." playing michael dukakis. you really do have to go back to ronald reagan to find a republican that was in command during a presidential debate. and i predict that's going to excite the republican base in a way it hasn't been excited in a very long time. we're not used to winning debates like this. >> right. >> i'd even -- i think you're exact
i was surprised that obama didn't bring it up. biggest surprise for me of the night is that it didn't come up. it's been the dominant thing in our debate for the last few weeks. >> david axelrod is coming up. jon meacham, you look over the past 25 years, 30 years or so, and you look at the republican presidential candidates who all have strengths, they've all been remarkable men in their own way, but not good debaters. you know, republicans have held our breath through the john mccain...
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and he's going to bring congress back to have hearings next week on this issue. no question this has become a political issue and in terms of hearings, coming at a very bad time for president obama and the democrats. >> something to look for possibly if not tomorrow night in denver in that debate down the road for sure. as we talk libya, we talked a lot, erin, on your show and my show, about afghanistan. but if you look at iraq where the president ended u.s. combat relations and he's touted that, they're having huge problems there. >> it's amazing. as you talk about it, last week at his speech to the u.n. general assembly, the president went through a list of what he considered to be his big victories, osama bin laden being dead was one and ending the war in iraq was another one. september was the deadliest in terms of attack since august of 2010, which is pretty shocking since the war is technically over. on top of that reuters has some footage that we have for you of literally pictures of the iotolla from iran. pictures all over iraq now as iran is trying to ga
and he's going to bring congress back to have hearings next week on this issue. no question this has become a political issue and in terms of hearings, coming at a very bad time for president obama and the democrats. >> something to look for possibly if not tomorrow night in denver in that debate down the road for sure. as we talk libya, we talked a lot, erin, on your show and my show, about afghanistan. but if you look at iraq where the president ended u.s. combat relations and he's...
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here we are how many weeks later? >> i'm asking if it works coming from paul ryan. >> can i ask you a question? how many weeks? >> two and a half weeks. >> two and a half weeks later? i think we're good. what did paul ryan say, willie? he said the response was slow, confused, and it is. in the middle of all this, the president thinks it's a bump in the road. i think two weeks later, not time to ask these questions? the biggest problem before was they did it the morning after all of this erupted. >> it was bad press by them. but what we pointed out early on is it was insults to americans to propose the idea that it was based on the youtube video. that people showed up with heavy weapons, rpgs and things like that as i said before to talk about a mouth breather in the united states that 3,000 people on youtube had seen. that was the insult. that wasn't the problem, that they went out publicly and said right away it was based on the video. >> bottom line, mark halperin, you look at all the polls, americans want to get ba
here we are how many weeks later? >> i'm asking if it works coming from paul ryan. >> can i ask you a question? how many weeks? >> two and a half weeks. >> two and a half weeks later? i think we're good. what did paul ryan say, willie? he said the response was slow, confused, and it is. in the middle of all this, the president thinks it's a bump in the road. i think two weeks later, not time to ask these questions? the biggest problem before was they did it the morning...
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it is going to be fascinating to see what the polls show this next week. a lot of it may hinge on what happens in three minutes. we've got the jobs report coming out and the obama campaign obviously crossing their fingers. >> we'll bring that to you live. chuck and miles stay with us. the jobs number is moments away. we'll be right back. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. lean cuisine. be culinary chic. >>> breaking news. the jobs numbers are out the lowest since january of 2009. >> 7.8%. that politically is great news. however, you got to scratch your heads. 114,000 nonfarm jobs added. you have to have 150,000 just to keep up with population growth. i'm not an economist but this has to mean that more and more people, miles nadal, are discouraged and have just stopped looking for work. if you're not even having enough jobs created to keep up with population growth, and t
it is going to be fascinating to see what the polls show this next week. a lot of it may hinge on what happens in three minutes. we've got the jobs report coming out and the obama campaign obviously crossing their fingers. >> we'll bring that to you live. chuck and miles stay with us. the jobs number is moments away. we'll be right back. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy...
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>> well, i've been talking to some senior romney advisors this past week. one advisor said to me there are three things, three kinds of people we need to talk to, three ds he calls it, the dissatisfied, disem pointed and disenchanted with barack obama, number one. and that what mitt romney has to do is convince people that four years from now a mitt romney presidency will be better for their personal lives. they understand on the likability question of which the president beats mitt romney so handily, they're not about to convince all these people suddenly to turn around and say, oh, we like mitt romney more than we like president obama. what they're going to try and do is say you like him enough and he can do the job and he's better able to fix things. so he's not going to try and be bill clinton here, i feel your pain. but what he's going to try to do is say i'm focused on your concerns. >> can a debate like tonight's debate really change the direction of this campaign? >> i think it can accelerate or decrease momentum one way or another. and i went back
>> well, i've been talking to some senior romney advisors this past week. one advisor said to me there are three things, three kinds of people we need to talk to, three ds he calls it, the dissatisfied, disem pointed and disenchanted with barack obama, number one. and that what mitt romney has to do is convince people that four years from now a mitt romney presidency will be better for their personal lives. they understand on the likability question of which the president beats mitt...
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egypt, the muslim brotherhood is in power and president obama took a lot of heat a couple of weeks ago when he said that he didn't consider egypt an ally. he does not consider egypt an enemy. so which is it? >> egypt is a legal status is a major nonnato ally. that's the legal status allowing us to give military assistance to egypt. the egyptian administration is evolving and we hope they'll continue the same policies in the past. they said they'll honor the treaty that anwar sadat negotiated under president cart carter's leadership in 1978. they say they'll keep their. >> linement the same. we're hopeful they will. i want to go back for such a second on criticisms of syria. >> absolutely. >> the only thing i heard was a discussion of timing and yet, if you look at timing, as soon as we -- we immediately began to look for the leadership of the syrian opposition and when we found them began to deal with. >> that's not true. >> at the first spark of conflict, the right thing to do is not to dump weapons in to a conflict zone. it's to try to prevent the conflict because any time you have a
egypt, the muslim brotherhood is in power and president obama took a lot of heat a couple of weeks ago when he said that he didn't consider egypt an ally. he does not consider egypt an enemy. so which is it? >> egypt is a legal status is a major nonnato ally. that's the legal status allowing us to give military assistance to egypt. the egyptian administration is evolving and we hope they'll continue the same policies in the past. they said they'll honor the treaty that anwar sadat...
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. ♪ >>> for the past week, both mitt romney and president obama, have you noticed this? they've been trying to lower expectations for their debate performance by insisting that they're not great debaters. based on some of their past debates, tomorrow could look like this. >> the -- uh -- >> i -- i don't want to -- >> let me just make a couple of points. my -- here's -- >> i hope they either take off the ad or make it correct. >> look, let's just be clear. >> we hired a lawn company to mow our lawn. >> as i said before -- >> and with my wife, we've, uh -- >> we have -- >> but what -- um, let's see. um -- uh, we could start with his idea to have a lunar colony that would mine minerals from the moon. >> you said that, uh -- let me just make a closing point. that made no sense whatsoever. >> can you imagine if somebody did that to us? >> uh, uh, uh -- >> no. you know what? >> that was funny. >> look at that. welcome back to "morning joe." sam stein and mark mckinnon are still with us here in washington along with mike barnicle in new york. mike, are you awake? >> i am. i am.
. ♪ >>> for the past week, both mitt romney and president obama, have you noticed this? they've been trying to lower expectations for their debate performance by insisting that they're not great debaters. based on some of their past debates, tomorrow could look like this. >> the -- uh -- >> i -- i don't want to -- >> let me just make a couple of points. my -- here's -- >> i hope they either take off the ad or make it correct. >> look, let's just be...